p: look, a cat! ... which way is it?
l: hmm?
p: this way?
l: i brought some money, what about you?
p: mhm. *unintelligible¨*
l: in real time?
p: yeah, in real time. *unintelligible*
l: yeah, i made that rack in like 5 hours. i don't know, i don't pay a lot of attention to the time. sometimes i make the rack and a couple of days later i sit down and i'm like "oh yeah, i made this", turn it on and start recording. so the real time recording time is the same amount of time as the track. and i did edit it in the end, because there were some transitions that were too long. i used live, but it was very little editing. then i mastered it and that's it. like 2 or 3 hours. but *unintelligible* i try not to think too much about it, i don't have a big studio or anything. i can only get to a certain point that way, so i use presets and modify them.
p: i'd have a really hard time finishing it and saying "yes. that's it. no more."
l: yeah, that's one of the hardest things. i have some songs from 2013, still trying to finish them. they're never finished, abandoned.
e: fresh bread, right here. hey! how are you?
l: very well! how are you?
e: hello lady. are you going to buy something?
l: yes, but you don't have ice cream, do you?
e: we do, in the back of the store we have some.
l: you do? great. but what kind of ice cream do you have?
e: i don't know, you'll have to see for yourself.
l: ....i don't know. sometimes it happens to me that i'm trying out something, like a new sequencer. i try to figure out how it works. with that sequencer in particular... do you know the tr303?
p: no
l: it's that classic acid synth. [makes bleep bloop noises]
p: oh yeah, i know which one you mean.
l: well it's easy to program slides with that sequencer. so i usually don't use slides in sequencers and i was trying that out. i liked the riff a lot, and you know, the song has the riff playing all the time. [sings the riff] and it's neither 8 bars or 16 bars, it doesn't repeat every other 4 bars, it creates a polyrhythm. so even though it's very repetitive.... hi there! since it's polyrhythmic it always sounds different with the 4 by 4. so you have this one part that's longer, and another one that's shorter and they're playing side by side. so they always come together in another way.
p: they're out of phase.
l: yeah. it's like that video synth stuff. when you have 2 waveforms that overlap, another waveform is created. so the polyrhythms and stuff... when you do that with a lot of waves, like with infinite waves, i think that creates our reality. a lot of waves that are superimposed. very low frequency waveforms, very high frequency waveforms and an infinite number of wavesforms in between. i think that way you can create an access to other realities... when you listen to a song, you plug into another kind of waveform, or different waveforms, different states... i don't what to use the word "energies", because it's so charged with esotericism. but in very physical terms...
p: there's a lot of variables, not just the one you compose.
l: yeah, it's a simplification.

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